tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post4511387907191642572..comments2024-03-28T14:05:12.281-07:00Comments on The Cartoon Cave: That's a Good Question!Pete Emsliehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01451607722482352366noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-89258899754864145142018-03-09T07:11:46.132-08:002018-03-09T07:11:46.132-08:00I am gradually reading my way through your blog, l...I am gradually reading my way through your blog, leaning and enjoying! I find this post interesting and insightful. I’m afraid I find digital coloring to be as flat and lifeless as any other art done digitally. For example, I found your rough pencil sketch of BB King to be delighful, while the finished art seems soulless, due to the coloring. There is no mistaking digital coloring, even when it is masterfully done (I am thinking of Aaron Blaise here). I can understand the appeal to the artist of working digitally, but I see no appeal in it for the viewer.AmyShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15491367062875954080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-83253546205294111132008-08-21T09:43:00.000-07:002008-08-21T09:43:00.000-07:00Funny that you mention that you'd need a Cintiq to...Funny that you mention that you'd need a Cintiq to rotate your work, cuz ive been using one at work for a few weeks now, and it doesnt actually rotate the way youd want. Im actually more comfortable shifting my Graphire at home. The Cintiq rotates a bit, but not nearly enough, and only if its at the end of the desk, which means you need the keyboard to be out of the way (inconvenient when hot-keying through tools). Toon Boom software comes with a function that when you hold the space bar, you can rotate the digital canvas. It's SO handy, I wish Flash and Photoshop had it.<BR/><BR/>Your position on the subject seems fine. Stick to whatever your best at, but dont keep yourself from doing other things. I must admit, what annoys me the most about digital work is the lack of originals, but just as you grew up with ink, I (and surely many more of my generation) grew up with Photoshop and a Wacom. Though ive tried many times, I think i have as much trouble if not more with traditional paint than you do with digital. I am getting better and hand-inking though!Eric "Spillz" Angelillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07641056289886362911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-83657527994093414912008-08-18T08:55:00.000-07:002008-08-18T08:55:00.000-07:00I agree with all of the points made here. The conn...I agree with all of the points made here. The connection between the artist and the work is somewhat broken when a computer enters the equation.<BR/><BR/>A side note not directly related to this discussion, but part of the charm, for me, of a piece by Bridget Riley or M. C. Escher relying on some sort of pattern or geometry is that it is entirely hand-crafted. There is something in knowing the precision required in the piece's creation which adds to the enjoyment and appreciation of the piece itself, even though much of these artists' work could also be created on computer.<BR/><BR/>It's nice for the artist to get his or her hands dirty and to have something physically tangible as a result, with a texture and character to it that no other object has, as opposed to a flat printout.Luke Farookhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02515740301634209755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-55916605365682947822008-08-18T07:36:00.000-07:002008-08-18T07:36:00.000-07:00Thanks for the answer on this. I agree with much o...Thanks for the answer on this. I agree with much of what you're saying. Whatever about Photoshop, the whole Illustrator points and beziers thing just baffles me. That's not drawing, it's mathematics. <BR/><BR/>And when people want vector artwork so they can scale it, does that mean they only take flat colouring too? I worked on something years ago that had a nice marker look to it. When it came out on dvd, the artwork was a poor vector approximation with flat neon colouring. It was quite hideous. <BR/><BR/>With this technology, do we now not have high resolution scanners or cameras that mean we can still create art the old fashioned way and also get a digital version of astounding resolution?<BR/><BR/>I do feel there is room for both (I've seen some lovely work online created all-digital) but it seems rare to me that digital equivalents can actually achieve better results than doing it the way that, you know, works.<BR/><BR/>The process as you describe it shows just how much better it is doing it the way you have been for years. As you say, it is a skill you have been perfecting your entire life.<BR/><BR/>I didn't have much of a choice to go digital. There's not much call for hand drawn animation these days. But the switch happened because it's cheaper and quicker for producers, not because it could actually get better results. Often, getting good results involves fighting the programmes.<BR/><BR/>A whole different thing to direct brain to hand to pencil communication.<BR/><BR/>What's frightening is how quickly people get used to it. People do actually lose their traditional skills. I guess it's a 'use it or lose it' thing.<BR/><BR/>I do sometimes wish, however, that pens and ink had an undo button.Bitter Animatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06617537816971588380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-60783155391854137882008-08-18T05:51:00.000-07:002008-08-18T05:51:00.000-07:00The digital age needs a caveman."when creating art...The digital age needs a caveman.<BR/><BR/>"when creating art digitally, there will never be such a thing as an original piece of art. Anything tangible to hold in your hands or frame on the wall will always have to be a printout"<BR/><BR/>Very true. There's something very alive about a finished original piece of art. One of the most lively feeling I've experience recently was going through the d'Orsay museum in France. The artwork is alive. I never get that from digitally created artwork.<BR/><BR/>"Personally, I find the digital trend highly disturbing"<BR/><BR/>Same here. currently I think digital painting and CGI lacks warmth. They create more of a feeling of awe when done well, which is not always the desired goal. Traditional media feels like its rooted deeper inside human emotions, it speaks directly to the soul. <BR/>That is not to say that some CG animated films aren't exciting, but for me it always takes some time to accept the visuals, before I can get into the story and feel for the characters.<BR/><BR/>In my "Space Race" post I discussed what I think are the best uses of CG and Classical animation.Amir Avnihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06878436029210223623noreply@blogger.com