tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post8411427263955294826..comments2024-03-28T14:05:12.281-07:00Comments on The Cartoon Cave: Here's To "The Boys"!Pete Emsliehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01451607722482352366noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-64923372748426773792018-08-22T06:01:24.228-07:002018-08-22T06:01:24.228-07:00Just watched this documentary. Fantastic. I've...Just watched this documentary. Fantastic. I've always been fascinated with relationships between siblings, particularly brothers. Dick says at one point that something happened with Bob, that he needed to get away and asked Dick to 'go get' his 'clothes' from his home. Near the beginning of the film, Dick told the story of how he begged Bob to 'go get' HIS clothes from the apartment he shared with his first wife and that Bob told him he owed him...it certainly seems to me that this moment when, for whatever personal reason, Bob was in a state where he felt he needed to get away from his family? and asked Dick to retrieve things for him, THIS is the moment things came crashing in. Dick says he was 'only trying to help' his brother, that there ensued 'misunderstandings' when he went to his brother's home? And then Bob's son narrates that, 'In a couple of days, Dad came home'...and that was the end of that. And from then, the two families aren't even allowed to acknowledge each other? I'm sorry, but to have brought the issue up at all is to intrigue people as to what could possibly have happened to have caused such an extreme, extreme estrangement. Differences between siblings is one thing. Two different experiences of the big world causing two different realities is one thing, but clearly, something happened that was huge, HUGE at that point when Bob was needing to get away and asked Dick to do something for him. Also, there was the moment where it's mentioned that other 'teams' had warned each other that 'wives' should be 'kept separate from each other'. So, again...sorry if people are intrigued, but we are. It's clearly deeply personal, but it is suggested in a public forum and people would really like to understand what happened to keep all cousins, aunts apart...apart to the point that when Bob's and Dick's parents die, they don't even attend the same wakes!!!!! Listen, I know something about extreme estrangement. My brother and I had a huge one. Not my doing. He turned into a lying loser who literally stole from our parents and from me. So, it happens. Beyond all that. Yes, there have been no composers like the Sherman Brothers and they created some marvelous, wonderful music. And we all thank them for that. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05856303946820438447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-19519512470051143152009-12-06T16:33:47.052-08:002009-12-06T16:33:47.052-08:00Hi Jeff,
My apologies if my impression of the beg...Hi Jeff,<br /><br />My apologies if my impression of the beginning of the brothers' estrangement tilts more towards your father pushing away. Again, just my impression based on what info there is in the documentary, since no definitive reasons are given. Regardless of what started it all, I must say that it left me very sad, as I'd always assumed they were best of friends throughout their long professional songwriting career.<br /><br />By the way, another "revelation" during the doc was finding out that you were married to Wendy Liebman. I think Wendy is a brilliant comedienne, and coincidentally I had my students sketching her only a few weeks ago from a recorded performance at Montreal's "Just For Laughs" festival, as she has such expressive features!Pete Emsliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01451607722482352366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-80931006672959315272009-12-06T09:02:31.336-08:002009-12-06T09:02:31.336-08:00There were deeper reasons beyond what we showed in...There were deeper reasons beyond what we showed in the film for the brothers' estrangement and, trust me, my Dad (Bob) is not the cause of the rift. Quite the contrary. Bob was always a joy at home, a terrific dad; funny, warm, gentle and engaging. I'm saddened that it came across to the author of this piece that he was merely petty about Dick. The part of "the boys" he must be referring to was when the brothers spoke about their childhood. Dick was an out of control kid who, by all accounts, was a "little devil" who wound up being sent to military school -- thus the annoyance expressed by my dad and others we spoke to. Beyond that, my Dad only has words of praise for his brother in the film. The personal reasons for their rift I will continue not to detail, but rest assured it was not Bob's doing. What my cousin and I show in the film is that it's not unusual for siblings to have issues, especially siblings in business together. What is incredible and wonderful about the Sherman Brothers is that they got beyond these issues for 60 years and created, arguably, the greatest body of music and lyrics in family entertainment.Jeffrey C. Shermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01180277007995124623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-2534093020181269392009-12-06T08:59:15.437-08:002009-12-06T08:59:15.437-08:00There were deeper reasons beyond what we showed in...There were deeper reasons beyond what we showed in the film for the brothers' estrangement and, trust me, my Dad (Bob) is not the cause of the rift. Quite the contrary. Bob was always a joy at home, a terrific dad; funny, warm, gentle and engaging. I'm saddened that it came across to the author of this piece that he was merely petty about Dick. The part he must be referring to was when the brothers spoke about their childhood. Dick was an out of control kid who, by all accounts, was a "little devil" who wound up being sent to military school -- thus the annoyance expressed by my dad and others we spoke to. Beyond that, my Dad only has words of praise for his brother in the film. The personal reasons for their rift I will continue not to detail, but rest assured it was not Bob's doing. What my cousin and i tried to show in the film is that it's not unusual for siblings to have issues, especially siblings in business together. What is incredible and wonderful about the Sherman Brothers is that they got beyond these issues for 60 years and created, arguably, the greatest body of music and lyrics in family entertainment.Jeffrey C. Shermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01180277007995124623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-25169805741439140512009-08-25T08:13:37.120-07:002009-08-25T08:13:37.120-07:00I loved working with these guys. From "The Ju...I loved working with these guys. From "The Jungle Book" to "The Tigger Movie," it's always been a joy.<br /><br />You're correct that Richard has always been the "sunny" brother.<br /><br />Bruce Gordon was a pal as well. Our last project together was the Walt Disney Family Museum.Floyd Normanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08635960964922892254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-48721475757019702362009-08-24T15:56:51.007-07:002009-08-24T15:56:51.007-07:00Just to clarify, it was Bruce Gordon the Disney Im...Just to clarify, it was Bruce Gordon the Disney Imagineer who tragically passed away. Both of the Shermans are still around today, although Robert Sherman is definitely looking frail now.Pete Emsliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01451607722482352366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-43275432200327632262009-08-24T15:12:33.304-07:002009-08-24T15:12:33.304-07:00In my estimation the Sherman Brothers are the grea...In my estimation the Sherman Brothers are the greatest composers in the history of the cinema. They have produced more memorable songs than anyone I can think of. They were brilliant. I wish I could tell the surviving brother myself how much I have enjoyed and still enjoy his musicalanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584981697781605936noreply@blogger.com