tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post196302314507099545..comments2024-02-13T17:57:36.806-08:00Comments on The Cartoon Cave: The "Freddie Moore Girl"!Pete Emsliehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01451607722482352366noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-89000315023106429122008-12-16T09:20:00.000-08:002008-12-16T09:20:00.000-08:00Hi there! Excellent blog and very interesting stuf...Hi there! Excellent blog and very interesting stuff. I am a fan of Fred Moore myself, too!Fabián Fuccihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15511470341479650900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-22389624520987584042007-10-12T14:13:00.000-07:002007-10-12T14:13:00.000-07:00Hey pete awesome collection, I disagree that its n...Hey pete awesome collection, I disagree that its not possible to draw like that in the digital age though, you can still scan and bucket fill colours, and some programs have settings to allow for gaps, I think the real problem is that the digital age has allowed for things to be done faster and cheaper, and thats all big companies care about. Recently i found animagic studios site, Which is headed by Sergio Pablos, and it looks like the work their putting out is really more about quality then price. Anyways i hope your new classes are going well and hopefully sometime soon we can run over some designs with you on our film. cheers -seanHodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01079269412181074253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-53523742536907353332007-09-05T20:18:00.000-07:002007-09-05T20:18:00.000-07:00Jenny - Thanks for the nod on your blog too! It's ...Jenny - Thanks for the nod on your blog too! It's much appreciated. I've long enjoyed all the Fred Moore articles you've posted over the last year or so. I didn't know that much about his life or history with Disney, so it's nice to read more about that in addition to seeing the wealth of art you've shared with your readers.<BR/><BR/>Brian - Nice to see you here too! And don't worry - the Disney "Cheapquel" will never be celebrated here on this blog! :)Pete Emsliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01451607722482352366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-64141806478767778162007-09-05T13:46:00.000-07:002007-09-05T13:46:00.000-07:00Hey Pete,Great posts about Fred Moore...love all t...Hey Pete,<BR/>Great posts about Fred Moore...love all the art, especially your figure drawings. <BR/>Terrific stuff. <BR/>Yes, I agree, the artists today are better than most of the artists from Walt's age, but in general I prefer the way animation was done before 1970, with a heavy attention to appeal that seems to be sorely lacking nowadays. <BR/>The art of the line is definitely lost in animation,...don't see much thin to thick to thin line anymore except for illustrations. <BR/><BR/>It seems like every animated cartoon today has to look screwed up in order to be animated. <BR/>Does anyone in charge have any real passion for good design?<BR/>Brian MitchellBrian Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10350309001837541272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-79448703128045057452007-09-05T09:39:00.000-07:002007-09-05T09:39:00.000-07:00Wonderful post, Pete! I'm about to point my visit...Wonderful post, Pete! I'm about to point my visitors here via your Freds(can I call them that?); I too love seeing the cleanups and yes, the craftsmanship is mind boggling: talk about overqualified--I'd bet that every CU artist(as well as the ink and paint girls, as we know)was a Chouinard or other art school grad--a really good one. <BR/>We--or rather Walt and Roy--can thank the Depression for their employment in this important but anonymous job.<BR/>And thanks for the plug!<BR/>Finally--that brunette does look like Natalie Wood, you're right.Jenny Lerewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06668171465801333811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-67667131757898229632007-09-01T09:23:00.000-07:002007-09-01T09:23:00.000-07:00Thanks for posting this Pete - always a delight to...Thanks for posting this Pete - always a delight to see Freddie Moore drawings - had no idea you owned these!<BR/>-R.Randeep Katarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02513054840931685761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-48345373333923763802007-09-01T08:23:00.000-07:002007-09-01T08:23:00.000-07:00I'm glad you fielded that question, David, as I ha...I'm glad you fielded that question, David, as I had no idea! I believe that the first time Mickey was actually portrayed with complete eyes, though, was not onscreen but on a printed program for a Disney employee event entitled "Walt's Field Day" in 1938 celebrating their success of "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs". It was a drawing of Mickey playing golf, done by Ward Kimball if I recall correctly.<BR/><BR/>Regardless of how the change came about and whose idea it was, I think it was essential that it took place when it did. Though many would argue that Mickey was funnier in the B & W cartoons of the 30's with his big dot eyes, I think he had to evolve as quickly as he did in order to remain a viable character for Disney. Those dot eyes were very limiting to work with in putting over expression or eye direction and the change to complete eyes with separate pupils kept his design more consistent with the animation artform that was evolving at a furious pace at that time.<BR/><BR/>Curiously, Mickey actually started out with complete eyes in "Plane Crazy" and "The Gallopin' Gaucho", both of which were animated prior to what is generally thought of as the first Mickey cartoon, "Steamboat Willie". In those cartoons, Mickey has big buggy eyes that touch in the middle. By the time he was redesigned for "Steamboat Willie", the outlines of his eyes were gone and what had formerly been just the black pupils within the whites of his eyes now were interpreted as the complete eye in themselves. The rounded 'M' shape that we think of as his eyebrows today (where his flesh colour meets the black of his head), started out in life as the exterior outline of his eyes.Pete Emsliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01451607722482352366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-31854586808193210742007-08-31T22:01:00.000-07:002007-08-31T22:01:00.000-07:00Zack was an art director/layout artist on The Sorc...Zack was an art director/layout artist on The Sorcerer's Apprentice (which if I recall correctly is the first time the new eye design was used on Mickey) , but I doubt he would have been the one to make that design change . I've always heard that change attributed to Fred Moore. <BR/><BR/>I suppose it's possible that Zack had some hand in suggesting to Fred that they try something new with Mickey's eyes for Sorcerer's Apprentice ?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162612139500138953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4761399790417030925.post-26813875842241113912007-08-31T21:00:00.000-07:002007-08-31T21:00:00.000-07:00On the topic of Mickey's design:I heard it was Zac...On the topic of Mickey's design:<BR/>I heard it was Zack Schwartz who added the white to Mickey's eyes, changing from the Ub Iwerks black circle eyes. Issit true?Amir Avnihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06878436029210223623noreply@blogger.com